S4E71 – AH – “After Hours” with Marilyn R. Pukkila

In this “After Hours” episode, David discussed a wide range of Inklings-related topics with Marilyn R. Pukkila, known to some in the Tolkien community as “Marilyn, The Librarian”…

S4E71: “After Hours” with Marilyn R. Pukkila (Download)

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Timestamps

00:00 – Entering “The Eagle & Child”…
00:12 – Welcome
00:35 – Marilyn R. Pukkila
03:57 – Quote-of-the-week
04:39 – Drink-of-the-week
05:07 – Patreon Toast
06:08 – Haiku
06:50 – Discussion: PPP Moot
08:41 – Discussion: Nine Tolkien Themes
12:40 – Discussion: LOTR Movies
17:16 – Discussion: Tolkien Biopic
19:55 – Discussion: Lewis & Our Lady
22:06 – Discussion: Addison’s Walk
24:24 – Discussion: Till We Have Faces
35:27 – Discussion: Joy Davidman
41:15 – Discussion: Wonder Woman & Captain Marvel
44:06 – Discussion: Owen Barfield and TWHF
49:51 – “Last Call” Bell and More Information

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Show Notes

Quote-of-the-week

• Since we have Marilyn The Librarian with us today, the QOTW comes from Surprised By Joy, where Jack is describes the school library:

The other undisguised blessing of the Coll was “the Gurney”, the school library; not only because it was a library, but because it was sanctuary

C.S. Lewis, Surprised By Joy

• The other undisguised blessing of the Coll was “the Gurney”, the school library; not only because it was a library, but because it was sanctuary.
  – C.S. Lewis, Surprised By Joy

Drink-of-the-week

• The drink-of-the-week for David was drinking Earl Grey Tea. Marilyn was drink Andy Serkis’ recipe for Gollum Juice:

Patreon Toast

• We’ve had a bunch of new Patreon supporters recently, so we need to toast one of our newest, Kevin L:

Kevin, we pray that, despite Lewis’ assertion to the contrary for himself, that one day you’ll find a book long enough and a cup of tea big enough to truly satisfy you… (but if you’re in a library, not at the same time – no drinks allowed!)

Patreon Toast

Haiku

• Marilyn wrote a haiku for us!

Brutal rejection
Radical transformation
Queen and Psyche both

Marilyn’s Haiku, “Orual”

Discussion Outline

Tolkien

• Marilyn told us about Prancing Pony Podcast Digital Moot.
• Marilyn unpacked some of her Nine Tolkien Themes (drawn largely from Letter 131):
  • Fall, Mortality, and The Machine
  • The dangers of possessiveness
  • The need of creatures of a creator-God to do their own sub-creating
  • Great events are often caused by the small and weak
  • “Art” created for the sake of art/creativity (which can appear to be magic)
  • Evil contains its own destruction, and unintentionally aids the good (by design)
  • The necessity of free will in all choices (to carry out the design)
  • The danger of power to all but The One (Eru Ilúvatar)
  • The need of the noble and the vulgar, the wise and the simple for each other
• David and Marilyn spoke about the Peter Jackson movies and the Tolkien biopic from a few years ago.
• In one of her emails, Marilyn commented on the “You Don’t know Jack” episode commenting on something Tolkien-related which she hadn’t come across before…

Myth and Till We Have Faces

• Marilyn talked a little bit about Addison’s Walk.
• David and Marilyn spoke for a while about Till We Have Faces.
• The interview drew to conclusion with a discussion about Barfield Month.